Ryan Howard is asking for 18 Million in arbitration

The Phillies Ryan Howard is ask for 18 million in arbitration. He’s asking for 8 million more
RyanHoward.jpgthan what he got from arbitration last year. I’m actually shocked that the Phillies haven’t locked him up with a long contract by now. I belive arbitration does nothing but create bad feelings between the team and player. The players go in there talking about all the good things they do and their stats. Then the team goes in there basicly putting the player down and pointing out all the bad things they do. Just to win the arbitration. Just sounds like a lose situation on both parts. How can you want to play for a team that is trying to point out all the bad stuff you do.


In Howard’s situation the team will be talking about how many times this guy strikes out. If Howard doesn’t sign a long term contract with the Phillies he will have to go through arbitration again. He is not eligable for free agency until after the 2011 season.


~King of Cali


  1. AJRoxMyWhiteSox

    I agree with you on how arbitration affects the relationship between a club and a player. If the Phillies are smart, they’ll lock him up long-term as soon as possible. Losing a great player like Howard could be detrimental for the team.

  2. redbirdchatter

    I think maybe the reason they haven’t locked him up is the fact that he wants 18 million a year….seems a little steep. You make a good point about arbitration…no one’s going to leave the table with a good feeling after they’ve discussed his prodigious number of strikeouts and his below average defense.

  3. dev_dogg

    Not even a question. Ryan Howard hits 40-50 homers a year and drives in anywhere from 120-140 RBI’s, yea he may hit .250 and strike out near 200 times, but there is a lot more good that comes out of Ryan Howard than bad. If a guy can consistently hit better than anyone else, give him the money, otherwise he leaves, and then your out of your best hitter. And $18 million is a bargain, compared to what Mark Teixeira, $20 million, J.D. Drew, $20 million (RIDICULOUS!!!), Manny Ramirez, wants 25, but will probably get 22.5 million from the LAD, and even A-Rod, 27.5 million, make next year. Ryan Howard had better stats than all of those guys over the past 2 years!! Give him the money, because if its anyone, he deserves it.

  4. evilpepin

    There is a reason why the phillies havent locked him up and thats because he costs to much. To lock him up long term its probably gana cost around 22million a season which the phillies cant afford this year with all the other players going for arbertration this year. Even still they wouldnt have much avalible money to get new players from free agency. Howard will most likely be traded during the 2010 season much like CC was.

  5. juliasrants

    Arbitration is a strange process. The Red Sox would love to tie Jonathan Papelbon up in a multi-year contract, but he really feels that he wants to “test the water” so the year to year arbitration is the only solution. In our case we settled a one year contract before we went to arbitration, but it was there if we needed it. I don’t know what the solution it.


  6. jamzw@earthlink.net

    They have not locked him up because–

    He is looking for way too much money

    He is a terrible first baseman

    He hits in a band-box. Good pitchers can pitch to him, and playoff teams have good pitchers.

    He has the body of Mo Vaughan and David Ortiz. When they go, they go early and they go fast.

  7. 75pedro

    Why should they lock him up. they have Howard controlled until his 33 year old season.
    They are doing the right thing.

  8. bob5741

    K of C – Being on the West Coast you may not be familiar with the situation but as noted by others the Phillies have him through age 33 – it is questionable how long he can go.
    Second – he really wants huge money and that is not the best investment for the Phillies.
    Third – This comes from a Phillies fan who goes to the games – Howard is the WORST first baseman in the MLB. He simply is horrible. When the ball is hit to him he always tries to run it to the bag because he knows he misses the throws. When a runner is on first I know there is a 65% chance he will either throw it away or hit the runner. His fielding has to be responsible for -4 to -5 wins a year.
    Fourth – Phillies will trade him to an AL team (DH) after 2009 season and get a host of good prospects to rebuild the farm team. Slugging first basemen are not hard to find.

  9. kingofcali

    I am aware that they do have him for a few more years. It’s not a legit contract though. Which is why he can go to arbitration every year. Just think it would be better off if they lock him up long term. When you think of the Phils you think Ryan Howard.

    ~King of Cali

  10. n00bster

    It’s not surprising that Howard is not locked to a long-term deal, because yes, the Phillies don’t think he’s worth all that money. Plus the amount of money asked for in arbitration is a lot, is an indication signing Howard to a long-term deal will lead to negative consequences of the payroll. Howard is an ala Adam Dunn type player and when you hear an account that a GM would not spend $2 million for Dunn, may be Howard is worth that much. In addition, he’s already 29 years old, and does not run nor field well.

    Finally, the Phillies do not have a need to make sure Howard has to be signed. The end of 2011 season ends this Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA) and it is well noted that players will have to take a rollback on their salaries, and the possibility of a hard salary cap. It is easily to be expected that teams will have difficulty keeping their high salary players for contracts pre-CBA than what they will be 2012 on. It’s just good business sense.

  11. comedywhop

    Just a quick reminder a contract has to be agreed upon by both parties…if your salary increased by at least 1400% in two years you would not be quick to quit on the arbitration process either. Howard will definitely milk the arbitration process as long as possible and will be cashing in at over 25 Million by the end of his eligibility.

  12. cerambo

    It is reported in the Philadelphia Inquirer that his camp is asking for 8 years and 200 million. That’s too risky for the Phillies. He is too old for an 8 year contract and his only talent, power hitting, is very vulnerable to injury. I love him on our team, but I think it is smart not to sign him for that much money. it’s my opinion they will not trade him but keep him till he becomes a free agent. There is always the chance that they will trade him in his last year of arbitration but, there are very few teams that will be able to afford him and his being traded will depend on their particular needs at the time that he becomes available.

  13. nokoolaid

    ……….. Stick with the West Coast and what you know. Nobody likes arbitration, but it exists to keep players salaries manageable.

    ……….. As one poster noted, I too have heard the $200M / 8YR figure and don’t think that is reasonable because, as another poster noted, with Howard’s physique he could go downhill fast once he hits his 30’s (Greg Luzinski, Boog Powell, Mo Vaughn, et al).

    ………. Furthermore, in Late innings he is not only a defensive liability but an offensive liability as well. Due to his poor performance versus lefties (BA .224) he becomes an easy target for lefty relievers with a late inning BA of .172 when game is on the line.

    ………. At $14M I believe the Phillies offer is fair, and the $18M he may get, way too much. If there were any hard feelings they haven’t stemmed from arbitration, but from his first year prior to arbitration when the penny-pinching FO low-balled him at $900K. Adding $100K would have made it a nice round $1M and soothed any hard feelings.

    ……….. I think the Phillies will stay with him this year and go for a repeat (doubtful in my opinion) and move him at the
    end of the season where, with two more years before free agency, he should retain most of his value.

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